Why does Sprint Moto Q have GPS enable?

[abrigham]

Originally Posted by indyx

For a know-it-all your knowledge of how A-GPS actually works is sorely lacking. lol

See my two posts in this other GPS thread if you really want to know how A-GPS works.

http://www.everythingq.com/forum/spr...html#post34889

http://www.everythingq.com/forum/spr...html#post36083

My knowledge is not lacking, I was just trying to simplify it when I said it triangulates your position based on relative location to the cell tower.. maybe triangulate was the wrong word to use. And when I said I didn't want to sound like a know it all, I was referring primarily to the length of my post. Although I'm sure your reply was most likely in jest, I certainly don't appreciate the less than warm welcome to the forum...

[scubasteve]

Emotions are hard to read in text online, let's just be friends You are both trying to say the same thing, you just have different ways of saying it.

[indyx]

Originally Posted by abrigham

My knowledge is not lacking, I was just trying to simplify it when I said it triangulates your position based on relative location to the cell tower.. maybe triangulate was the wrong word to use. And when I said I didn't want to sound like a know it all, I was referring primarily to the length of my post. Although I'm sure your reply was most likely in jest, I certainly don't appreciate the less than warm welcome to the forum...

Welcome to the forum! That said I don't think you choose your words poorly while dumbing down the explanation for us. You stated "rather then using satellites, it triangulates your position using the cell towers." You implied satellites aren't used to determine the receivers position.

With A-GPS receivers global positioning satellites are used in determining your position whenever possible. It's not determining your position based on tower triangulation as you said.

Actually this sprint FAQ on the subject explains a lot. It's on page 7-8 of the PDF file.

http://www.sprint.com/business/resou...User_Guide.pdf

While Sprint's location based services resort to "advanced forward link trilateration" if they can't a get a GPS lock, getting a GPS fix from the satellites is always the preferred method. If that's not possible, such as your indoors, then it falls back on the less accurate "AFLT" method of determining your position. Not only are GPS satellites used but they are the preferred and more accurate method of determining position.

[abrigham]

indyx, thanks... that was my mistake to state it that way... sometimes I have so much info floating around in my head, it's difficult to translate in to "plain english"... lol

that being said, I certainly hope someone comes up with an application or plug-in or something that can take the Q's A-GPS info and redirect it to a serial port so free apps like Google Maps can use that info (not to say that paid apps are bad, I just personally prefer the free ones! )

[scubasteve]

im still baffled that this phone shipped out for sale lacking a gps software soution like pretty much every other phone offers. i use m gps alot but i wil keep my 8400 around before i spend more money to have gps fro my q

[mashline]

Originally Posted by scubasteve

im still baffled that this phone shipped out for sale lacking a gps software soution like pretty much every other phone offers. i use m gps alot but i wil keep my 8400 around before i spend more money to have gps fro my q

windows mobile 5 does not support nmea (most common gps output format). the q also does not have java. Most of the gps apps are java on phones. They also take the data from the memory location in the phone to put in the java app. I have never seen a wm5 device with internal gps that is supported by software. I have seen wm6 devices with native support for internal gps info.

[scubasteve]

You would think these basic, expected things would have been incorporated though.

[pgh1969pa]

What Mashline stated is incorrect. WM5 does support embedded nmea GPS. I have two WM5 devices (Pharos GPS & Loox N560) with embedded SiRF III chips which can output data in the nema format. I used software which only supports nema output and I route the data thru WM5's virtual GPS port so mutiple programs can acess the data at the same. You can also the com port directly. Mashline, I'm not sure where you got this information but it's not true.

[UPdownLoAD]

Spoke to Telenav rep on Thursday, and Telenav will be released in June for the Q, HOWEVER, it requires a bluetooth puck, so I guess we're back to square one again.

[scubasteve]

Originally Posted by UPdownLoAD

Spoke to Telenav rep on Thursday, and Telenav will be released in June for the Q, HOWEVER, it requires a bluetooth puck, so I guess we're back to square one again.

Im not suprised by that one bit.