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[Pony99CA]

Originally Posted by dcarter

I hope u can help me, i installed this file Gstart (http://airfagev.com/downloads1.asp?id=128) on my MOto Q, but i removed it using active sync but now it says "can't find 'gStart' (or one of its components)." whenever i hit the start menu, so i cant access anything in the start menu, how can i get around this?

Check the obvious thing first -- is there a reference to Gstart in \Windows\Startup? If so, delete it.

Steve

P.S. There's no reason to ask the same question twice, especially 5 minutes apart in the same thread.

[Pony99CA]

Originally Posted by mjcarman

So... does anyone have any advice for a hobbyist developer who isn't willing to pay Microsoft hundreds of dollars to for the privilege of writing their own software?

Sure. Get eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 (and also the latest service pack). It's free, but it won't support all of the latest WM 5 stuff, I don't think.

You'll also need to download the Smartphone SDK, too.

Then visit my site's Developer section for links to Windows Mobile development help.

Steve

[heywire]

Originally Posted by mjcarman

*sigh* No, you can't. After much downloading and updating, the WM SDK refuses to install. I finally found the following fine print in the prerequisites (emphasis mine):

So... does anyone have any advice for a hobbyist developer who isn't willing to pay Microsoft hundreds of dollars to for the privilege of writing their own software?

If you check out eBay, you can pick up a copy of VS 2005 Standard (Academic) for less than $100.

[discord]

ditto that a real java implementation would be nice.

Originally Posted by wayww@optonline.net

Looking to run Java runtime on my Q. Have had no success in finding anything that works. Any suggestions would be appreciated...

[discord]

for my phone. I read something about .net in linux. Anyways how long does it take to get going in VS.NET. With no apt its a hassle clicking through all those menus and downloading a bunch of crap. How long does it take to get to upload Hello World to the Q?

[Pony99CA]

Originally Posted by discord

ditto that a real java implementation would be nice.

What do you mean by "real"? Have you tried IBM's WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment?

Steve

[discord]

J2ME is Java 2 micro edition. It is not a full Java implementation but has a subset of java features. You cannot compile full on java applications with J2ME.

Originally Posted by Pony99CA

What do you mean by "real"? Have you tried IBM's WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment?

Steve

[Pony99CA]

Originally Posted by discord

J2ME is Java 2 micro edition. It is not a full Java implementation but has a subset of java features. You cannot compile full on java applications with J2ME.

J2ME is still a "real" Java implementation, but designed for smaller devices (for example, phones and PDAs, like the Q). If you want J2SE or J2EE, that's another issue, but unless the IBM version can't get the Java logo for some reason, it is "real" Java.

My understanding is that you can compile "real" Java applications on J2ME, as long as those applications don't use features outside of the J2ME. I believe it's similar to compiling .NET applications for the .NET Compact Framework. (DISCLAIMER: While I am a programmer and have written Windows Mobile applications, I'm not a Java or .NET programmer, so it's possible I'm wrong about some of those issues.)

Steve

[halusha]

Along the lines of the other "I want to write my own Q apps" questions, I am willing to purchase the required MS developer tools, but I am having a hard time figuring out what exactly is needed to write a .NET CF 2.0 app for my Q. From scouring the MSDN site, if I only want to target my WM5 silver Verizon Q, I need:

Visual Studio 2005 Standard (or above)
MSDN Library (for development help content)
Windows Mobile 5 SDK for Smartphone

Where I start to get lost is in the service packs. Do I need Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1? Does VS 2005 SP1 make it so I don't need the WM5 Smartphone SDK? Do I need to install the .NET CF 2.0 Redistributable? What service packs are needed (or even available) for the .NET CF 2.0?

[Pony99CA]

Originally Posted by halusha

Along the lines of the other "I want to write my own Q apps" questions, I am willing to purchase the required MS developer tools, but I am having a hard time figuring out what exactly is needed to write a .NET CF 2.0 app for my Q. From scouring the MSDN site, if I only want to target my WM5 silver Verizon Q, I need:

Visual Studio 2005 Standard (or above)
MSDN Library (for development help content)
Windows Mobile 5 SDK for Smartphone

Where I start to get lost is in the service packs. Do I need Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1? Does VS 2005 SP1 make it so I don't need the WM5 Smartphone SDK? Do I need to install the .NET CF 2.0 Redistributable? What service packs are needed (or even available) for the .NET CF 2.0?

I haven't done Smartphone development (yet), but I doubt any Visual Studio service pack will eliminate the need for the Smartphone SDK (which has been around for a long time). Just get the latest VS service pack to be safe.

As for .NET CF, I think the Redistributable is just what it sounds like -- something you use if you're going to distribute your applications to others and want to redistribute .NET CF.

However, most .NET CF 2 applications that I've seen just say to download the framework and install it.

Regarding .NET CF service packs, search for them. If there are any, use the latest.

Steve