Developing Q Applications using VS2005

[VTDr0p0ut]

I'm a developer by day (C# & J++ mostly.... God help me) and mainly got the Q because it would give me the freedom to develop applications that I need on the fly instead of having to either get a separate device or purchase somethin that isn't what i needed in the first place. Anyway, I currently use VS005 Team Edition as my development environment (and just saw this board in the forum a few minutes ago, so I'm ecstatic about the Q skin for the emulator). ANyway, my question is whether its possible to develop .NET apps that are natively supported (i.e. don't require .NET 2.0) on the Q from VS2005? Also, is there another forum (or an area in here) that showcases the output of freelance developers, possibly a place to get ideas or critiques on an app?

[gooberdlx]

I would be glad to check out your application and even review code if you want...

But as far as native code, I think you *might* get away with the smart device projects in the C++ product. I'm not 100% sure though because I think it might force you into a managed C++ project.

Why wouldn't you want to take advantage of all the great APIs that .Net 2.0 gives you?

[VTDr0p0ut]

It's not that I'm not a .NET fan... but .NET 1.2 works very well for simple applications (e.g. my QNotes program I posted a little while back), and it's just a little cumbersome to require a 2.0 update on the Q for such a simple applicaiton (now that it's there, no biggie, but with all the new Q owners coming online and looking for a "simple" notes application that the Q is missing from the get-go, the installation process is not so simple).

I haven't used VS.NET or VS.NET 2003 in a long time, so I can't even recall if it had off-the-sheflf support for mobile devices or not - what do you all use?

[gooberdlx]

I use VS 2005 and VS 2003 depending on the devices that I'm writing for...

[vistadb]

We recently released a preview of VistaDB 3.0 which is the world's first fully managed SQL database engine for .NET and Compact Framework. VistaDB lets you build powerful SQL-based applications that run on the Motorola Q using Visual Studio 2005 -- without the crazy overhead of SQL Server or SQL Everywhere. VistaDB's footprint is only 600kb and it is freely distributable. Basically, VistaDB lets you build database applicaitons that run on your desktop and mobile devices with very little code changes -- just UI stuff as you would expect. More info is on our site below.

Anthony Carrabino
www.vistadb.net

[brc_br]

I want to develop a simple app using VS2005 with a button and a text box and deploy it to the Q. I created a new app for a smartphone device and then built it. I deployed it to the Q and it said no active sync. I downloaded and installed and verified activesync was working. I then tried to redeploy and the deployment gives an error. Does anyone know how to build and deploy a simple app on the Q using VS2005? I see this in the program files directory of the Q but it won't run. See attached project file.

[brc_br]

Well, I solved the problem. The standard tools that come with Visual Studio 2005 do not support the Q. I found a developer site on Motorola that gives you great tools to easily develop an app for the Q. There is the SDK, some plug-ins, as well as a cool emulator that allows you to test your app in a software-only version of the Q on your PC. Check out this link: http://developer.motorola.com/?path=1.2.5.149

[CodeGuy]

You can write Q apps in VS2005. You will need to download the 320x240 emulator from Microsoft MSDN site. All versions of .Net install side by side. So, install the development version that you want to target first. Then start a smartphone project. When you run the project, VS will deploy it to a Window Mobile 5 smartphone emulator, along with the targetted .Net framework version. You may have to also download the WM5 Smartphone SDK.

Hope this helps,

CG

[AlbertZeroK]

Is it just me, or is the emulator SLOW! I'm working on my first Q application (VB.NET based in VS 2005) and the Emulator is taking for ever to load (oddly, it reminds me of booting up my Q.)

Anyone know of a way to make the emulator faster? Perhaps put it on a second computer or something? I'd hate to think I need to upgrade my PC (P4 3.0ghz/2G RAM/2G RAM drive for page file/2x73g RAPTOR).

But this stuff looks great! It just bugs me some of the features I'm so use to in vb.net just don't work. Then again, I'm creating buttons out of text boxes using GDI+ drawing routines to make the graphics on the fly - which means I'm not loosing everything!

[vistadb]

Status update to our VistaDB 3.0 release schedule can be found here:
http://www.vistadb.net/news_061022_V...dmapUpdate.asp


Anthony Carrabino
www.vistadb.net