Google map and Q9h

[ptlee8202]

Originally Posted by Xebec

I know about the cell tower assist in positioning. I replied that because others in this thread posted that it doesn't work at ALL on the Q9h, even after a GPS lock. I'm pointing out that on my Q9h, the My Location feature does work after the GPS locks on. So, either I'm lying about it working after the GPS locks on, or they're incorrect about it not working at all even with a GPS lock. I know I'm not lying.

Edit: You even posted yourself: "It is not available even after the gps is initialized".

I'm telling you it does work, at least on my phone.

Then you are misreading the responses.

You took my response out of context by not showing what it was replying to.

here it is shown it full:

Originally Posted by ninjaap
On the Q9h that value you are referring will always read n/a. Because it is "NOT AVAILABLE" until you initialize gps by clicking on "use gps" in menu.
It is not available even after the gps is initialized. because the myl: value is only for cell tower data which the GMM app cannot get from our phones for some reason.

We were referring to the myl: value is not available. That does not mean the gps positioning is not working.

So, you are reading the previous posts incorrectly.

[ptlee8202]

Originally Posted by Xebec

I know about the cell tower assist in positioning. I replied that because others in this thread posted that it doesn't work at ALL on the Q9h, even after a GPS lock. I'm pointing out that on my Q9h, the My Location feature does work after the GPS locks on. So, either I'm lying about it working after the GPS locks on, or they're incorrect about it not working at all even with a GPS lock. I know I'm not lying.

Edit: You even posted yourself: "It is not available even after the gps is initialized".

I'm telling you it does work, at least on my phone.

Originally Posted by mexiken

From my understanding, he can't see my posts, so he doesn't see ANYTHING I'm writing. Thats why I asked someone to re-post it for me, or forward it, or something. He, like others, is just confused and therefore confusing people by posting that the My Location works, which it does, but people assume they mean My Location(beta) feature works, which it doesnt. The My Location feature always worked, and My Location(beta)doesn't start to work after you check "Use GPS", its 2 seperate features.

If you're not reading all of the previous posts, then you might not know what is going on.

[ninjaap]

Originally Posted by ptlee8202

Then you are misreading the responses.

You took my response out of context by not showing what it was replying to.

here it is shown it full:

Originally Posted by ninjaap
On the Q9h that value you are referring will always read n/a. Because it is "NOT AVAILABLE" until you initialize gps by clicking on "use gps" in menu.
It is not available even after the gps is initialized. because the myl: value is only for cell tower data which the GMM app cannot get from our phones for some reason.

We were referring to the myl: value is not available. That does not mean the gps positioning is not working.

So, you are reading the previous posts incorrectly.

And that's exactly what I was trying to say. It will ALWAYS reads n/a. Even after gps is initialized. That is why it led me to believe that gps is a SUBSTITUTE to my location. Because it still doesn't work as you just have stated. That is why I am having a hard time understanding your idea that it works in tandem. But apparently I'm wrong. And no doubt your going to tell me I'm wrong and that my post is useless... again... just trying to understand it mtyself.

[ninjaap]

Originally Posted by mexiken

I'm gonna sticky this over at my forum, complete with photos, so this can be cleared up. It sucks to explain this over and over, but it has to be done because so many people don't really know the difference, and its not their fault, its Google's.

Looking forward to that mexiken...

[ptlee8202]

Originally Posted by ninjaap

And that's exactly what I was trying to say. It will ALWAYS reads n/a. Even after gps is initialized. That is why it led me to believe that gps is a SUBSTITUTE to my location. Because it still doesn't work as you just have stated. That is why I am having a hard time understanding your idea that it works in tandem. But apparently I'm wrong. And no doubt your going to tell me I'm wrong and that my post is useless... again... just trying to understand it mtyself.

The myl: value can always shows N/A and GMM will still work. Because, the GPS value is not stored there. The myl: value is for storing Cell Tower data and we are unable to get that (due to Google is too busy to fix it for us) so that is why it shows N/A. There is another value in GMM that holds the GPS values. So, the GMM program can use either GPS or myl values as follows:

myl_value = coordinates from cell towers
gps_value = coordinates from GPS satellites

if gps_value is available then
map_position = gps_value
else
if myl_value is available then
map_position = myl_value
else
map_position = n/a (not available)
try_again
endif
endif

[mexiken]

Here it is.

Done and done.

[PacoJr67]

well done mexiken!

[mexiken]

Originally Posted by PacoJr67

well done mexiken!

Thank you. If theres anything that anyone thinks I should add, please let me know. I'd like to clarify that matter as much as possible, and I realize that my way of explaining it might not suffice for everyone.

[ninjaap]

Originally Posted by mexiken

Here it is.

Done and done.

So this proves my point that in Q9h's gps is a SUBSTITUTE for my location. They cannot and do not work in tandem in Q9h's. My location is really meant for non-gps enabled phones, because it approximates your location. If you have gps there is not a need for an approximation, becuase gps provides you with an exact location. Am I wrong or am I still misunderstanding something here? Good post by the way mexiken. I gather you got that info from google's site. I've read the same info from there and saw that same video.

[ptlee8202]

you need to reread.

he wrote they CAN work in tandem. they currently, do not work in tandem because google cannot get the cell tower data on the Q.