Google map and Q9h

[mexiken]

Originally Posted by ptlee8202

You are wrong. The GPS is not a substitute. The two technologies are meant to work in tandem. The iPhone 3g has the two technologies working together. Mexiken said the Blackjack II is working also. Whether good or bad we won't know. It does not work as designed on our phones. If you feel satisfied with just GPS, that is fine for you. Please don't interfere with getting more information here. If the Q9h on T-Mobile is working, it would be the first Q that is fully working with GMM. We can have a first hand account of any benefits.

What is the point of your post? Do we already know the Q9h does not work on Tmobile? You could have held your post until 47seijar replied.

Yes ninja, you were wrong in this case. Its not a substitute, just as ptlee said.

They are meant to compliment each other. Or actually, My Location(beta) is meant for those without GPS, however, given its speed and ease of use and the ability to improve its accuracy over time given you just using it, its benefits are MUCH more clear than GPS. You only really need GPS for turn by turn, voice guided directions, or when you wanna know where you are to plot a route, or search nearby. Other than that, its a slight bit overkill. My Location(beta) addresses the last two issues. Still needs work for the first one.

Even if you fire up the GPS, you still won't get anything in the "myl" part. Try it.

Yes, the BJII works with My Location(beta), but ONLY on the GSM network. It does not work with the AT&T 3G towers. At least, this was a while back, with older versions of Google Maps, don't know if it still functions the same way, though I would assume it would.

I would like to know if the Q9h works on T-Mobile towers, because we've had this discussion in another thread, and we came to the conclusion that it was the RDIL's in Moto's phones that prevent it from working correctly. If it works on T-Mo, then I know its a network issue, not a device one.

I don't know which one's worse though

[sniffs]

From my experience..the GPS chip power's down to save battery life.. when you first open a program that access it, it takes a minute or so to not only power on, but to aquire a signal.. If you open GMM and it doesn't instantly aquire a fix, uncheck Use GPS and recheck it a few times, it'll eventually power on.

[mexiken]

Originally Posted by sniffs

From my experience..the GPS chip power's down to save battery life.. when you first open a program that access it, it takes a minute or so to not only power on, but to aquire a signal.. If you open GMM and it doesn't instantly aquire a fix, uncheck Use GPS and recheck it a few times, it'll eventually power on.

In my experiences, that actually slows it down. Every time you boot it up, you're cold booting it. Every time you uncheck and check, you restart the process.

[alexeyge]

Location beta does not work in Switzerland. I guess it is not a network issue.

[Xebec]

Originally Posted by ptlee8202

It is not available even after the gps is initialized. because the myl: value is only for cell tower data which the GMM app cannot get from our phones for some reason.

That's funny, because my AT&T Q Global works just fine on "My Location" after I get a satellite fix.

Edit: It appears to work anyway, I do not get an error message when I click on "My location".

[ptlee8202]

Originally Posted by Xebec

That's funny, because my AT&T Q Global works just fine on "My Location" after I get a satellite fix.

Edit: It appears to work anyway, I do not get an error message when I click on "My location".

After all of the previous posts, you still don't get it?

It appears to work because it IS partially working. The GPS positioning part is working. The other part is Cell Tower positioning and that is not working. The two positioning technologies can work together giving benefits which we (Q owners) have not been able to try out.

[sniffs]

Originally Posted by mexiken

In my experiences, that actually slows it down. Every time you boot it up, you're cold booting it. Every time you uncheck and check, you restart the process.

When I first start up GMM and go to Use GPS, it act's like it's searching, than the searching goes away and nothing ever happens.. If I uncheck Use GPS, then recheck it.. within 20-30 seconds it pinpoints a GPS and I can use it normally..

If I use Live Search, no matter how many times I tell it to center on GPS, it never finds it.. I have to use GMM to start the GPS, then from there I can access GPS using other mapping software. It's weird!

[Xebec]

Originally Posted by ptlee8202

After all of the previous posts, you still don't get it?

It appears to work because it IS partially working. The GPS positioning part is working. The other part is Cell Tower positioning and that is not working. The two positioning technologies can work together giving benefits which we (Q owners) have not been able to try out.

I know about the cell tower assist in positioning. I replied that because others in this thread posted that it doesn't work at ALL on the Q9h, even after a GPS lock. I'm pointing out that on my Q9h, the My Location feature does work after the GPS locks on. So, either I'm lying about it working after the GPS locks on, or they're incorrect about it not working at all even with a GPS lock. I know I'm not lying.

Edit: You even posted yourself: "It is not available even after the gps is initialized".

I'm telling you it does work, at least on my phone.

[ptlee8202]

Originally Posted by sniffs

When I first start up GMM and go to Use GPS, it act's like it's searching, than the searching goes away and nothing ever happens.. If I uncheck Use GPS, then recheck it.. within 20-30 seconds it pinpoints a GPS and I can use it normally..

If I use Live Search, no matter how many times I tell it to center on GPS, it never finds it.. I have to use GMM to start the GPS, then from there I can access GPS using other mapping software. It's weird!

Try using GPSID/GPStest to kickstart the GPS. These utilities and/or turning the gps status indicator using registry setting will let you see exactly when you lockon the satellites.

[mexiken]

Originally Posted by ptlee8202

After all of the previous posts, you still don't get it?

It appears to work because it IS partially working. The GPS positioning part is working. The other part is Cell Tower positioning and that is not working. The two positioning technologies can work together giving benefits which we (Q owners) have not been able to try out.

From my understanding, he can't see my posts, so he doesn't see ANYTHING I'm writing. Thats why I asked someone to re-post it for me, or forward it, or something. He, like others, is just confused and therefore confusing people by posting that the My Location works, which it does, but people assume they mean My Location(beta) feature works, which it doesnt. The My Location feature always worked, and My Location(beta)doesn't start to work after you check "Use GPS", its 2 seperate features.