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Old 09-01-2008, 08:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Ebay auction claiming to have Wifi Enabled Silver Q9H....

Look what I found

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Q9h-Glo...d=p3286.c0.m14

here's a copy of the ad in case the auction expires


JUST CAME OUT THIS WEEK WITH AT&T!!! BRAND NEW!! ONLY OPENED TO TAKE PICS. Included is Phone, 2 batteries... 1 regular and 1 extended. USB cable, headphone adapter, extra phone back for extended battery, and Windows Mobile 6.1 CD. New in box with all manuals... --------------------------------------------- MOTO Q Global with Windows Mobile 6.1 Specifications The MOTO Q Global with Windows Mobile 6.1 is designed to work on the 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE and the 850/1900 MHz UMTS/HSDPA networks: US (850/1900 MHz) Canada (1900 MHz) Europe/Asia (900/1800 MHz) Multislot Configuration: EDGE Class 10/ GPRS Class 10; EDGE/GPRS (4 downlink x 4 uplink) Operating System: Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard Physical Characteristics: Device Size (L x W x D): 4.65 x 2.63 x 0.46 inches Device Weight: 4.73 oz Screen Size: 320 x 240 pixels Battery Approximate Battery Life Up to 30 days standby time and 9 hours talk time Browser capabilities Browser Version Internet Explorer, Opera Markup Language Supported xHTML, HTML 4.01, CSS File Formats Supported GIF, PNG, BMP, WBMP & JPG Camera NOTE: The storage capacity is limited by the remaining flash memory and expandable memory. Integrated Camera YES Resolution 2.0 megapixel Zoom 8x digital Image Format Supported JPEG Video Recorder YES Connectivity Bluetooth YES Cable USB Infrared NO Global Positioning System (GPS) Built-in GPS YES GPS capable YES Memory Flash (device) Memory 256MB storage / 96MB RAM Expandable Memory Supports MicroSD cards with up to 2GB of memory Messaging capabilities E-mail YES Instant Messaging (IM) YES Multimedia Messaging (MMS) YES Text Messaging (SMS) YES Multimedia capabilities NOTE: The storage capacity is limited by the remaining flash memory and expandable memory. Audio/Graphic/Video Multimedia Messaging (MMS) Size Limit 600KB Audio Player YES Audio Formats MIDI, MP3, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+ Graphic Formats GIF, PNG, BMP, WBMP & JPG Video Player YES Video Formats MPEG4, H.263, H.264, Real, WMV Push To Talk Push To Talk (PTT) NO Tethering/modem specifications Built-in modem YES Modem capabilities Click here for details Wi-Fi (WLAN) Wi-Fi (WLAN) enabled YES WLAN support N/A WLAN security methods N/A If you are viewing information on devices or services, please note: content reflects instructions for devices and services purchased from AT&T. Some differences may exist for devices not purchased from AT&T.

On Aug-31-08 at 07:33:50 PDT, seller added the following information:

JUST CAME OUT THIS WEEK WITH AT&T!!! BRAND NEW!! ONLY OPENED TO TAKE PICS.

Included: Phone, 2 batteries... 1 regular and 1 extended. USB cable, headphone adapter, extra phone back for extended battery, and Windows Mobile 6.1 CD. New in box with all manuals...

Please bid with complete confidence as I have always had 100% positive feedback!!!

I WILL GIVE FREE SHIPPING IF YOU USE BUY IT NOW!!!

IMMEDIATE PAYMENT REQUIRED WITHIN 24HOURS OF WILLING BID!!

The MOTO Q Global with Windows Mobile 6.1 is 3G enabled and designed to work on the 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE and the 850/1900 MHz UMTS/HSDPA networks:

* US (850/1900 MHz)
* Canada (1900 MHz)
* Europe/Asia (900/1800 MHz)

Multislot Configuration: EDGE Class 10/ GPRS Class 10; EDGE/GPRS (4 downlink x 4 uplink)

Operating System: Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard (BRAND NEW OS FOR PDA PHONES)

Physical Characteristics:

* Device Size (L x W x D): 4.65 x 2.63 x 0.46 inches
* Device Weight: 4.73 oz
* Screen Size: 320 x 240 pixels


Battery
Approximate Battery Life Up to 30 days standby time and 9 hours talk time

Browser capabilities
Browser Version Internet Explorer, Opera
Markup Language Supported xHTML, HTML 4.01, CSS
File Formats Supported GIF, PNG, BMP, WBMP & JPG

Camera
NOTE: The storage capacity is limited by the remaining flash memory and expandable memory.
Integrated Camera YES
Resolution 2.0 megapixel
Zoom 8x digital
Image Format Supported JPEG
Video Recorder YES

Connectivity
Bluetooth YES
Cable USB
Infrared NO

Global Positioning System (GPS)
Built-in GPS YES
GPS capable YES

Memory
Flash (device) Memory 256MB storage / 96MB RAM
Expandable Memory Supports MicroSD cards with up to 2GB of memory

Messaging capabilities
E-mail YES
Instant Messaging (IM) YES
Multimedia Messaging (MMS) YES
Text Messaging (SMS) YES

Multimedia capabilities
NOTE: The storage capacity is limited by the remaining flash memory and expandable memory.
Audio/Graphic/Video Multimedia Messaging (MMS) Size Limit 600KB
Audio Player YES
Audio Formats MIDI, MP3, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+
Graphic Formats GIF, PNG, BMP, WBMP & JPG
Video Player YES
Video Formats MPEG4, H.263, H.264, Real, WMV

Push To Talk
Push To Talk (PTT) NO

Tethering/modem specifications
Built-in modem YES
Modem capabilities Click here for details

Wi-Fi (WLAN)
Wi-Fi (WLAN) enabled YES
WLAN support N/A
WLAN security methods N/A


What do you guys think? How true can this be

If it is real? Can this ROM be out there somewhere? Or is this involve more than just a ROM? I.E A new phone design perhaps?
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Buyer Beware! I would be very, very cautious about this.

From the various reports flying around here and other q sites, I don't think we've seen more than a handful of 9h units that support wifi--probably prototypes or engineering development/test units. There is almost no evidence to support the claim that the 9h, in general, is just a software update away from having wifi. People have made all kinds of claims, but I caution anyone who might be duped into believing they can buy a 9h with wifi.

On the contrary, there are a lot of reasons to believe Motorola would not include wifi in the 9h, mostly for cost reasons. Sure, the processor in the 9h supports a wifi interface, but it requires a secondary chip to actually implement it. Real estate on very small PCBs is very costly, and having extra chips that software doesn't support doesn't make good sense.

See my previous posts on this for more details. I'm still waiting for anyone who would like to back up any claims with real schematics. I've asked but I have yet to hear a peep from anyone.

So beware.
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i just mailed that guy on there and this is what he said......"
Dear warriorpluto,

I couldn't till I read the specs from the Moto website.. Everything that is in the description is copied directly from Motorola.
I have not used the phone, so I can only hope they are true as it stated.
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i just mailed that guy on there and this is what he said......"
Dear warriorpluto,

I couldn't till I read the specs from the Moto website.. Everything that is in the description is copied directly from Motorola.
I have not used the phone, so I can only hope they are true as it stated.
That is odd, because I can't find the Q9h Silver on Moto's website.
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Buyer Beware! I would be very, very cautious about this.

From the various reports flying around here and other q sites, I don't think we've seen more than a handful of 9h units that support wifi--probably prototypes or engineering development/test units. There is almost no evidence to support the claim that the 9h, in general, is just a software update away from having wifi. People have made all kinds of claims, but I caution anyone who might be duped into believing they can buy a 9h with wifi.

On the contrary, there are a lot of reasons to believe Motorola would not include wifi in the 9h, mostly for cost reasons. Sure, the processor in the 9h supports a wifi interface, but it requires a secondary chip to actually implement it. Real estate on very small PCBs is very costly, and having extra chips that software doesn't support doesn't make good sense.

See my previous posts on this for more details. I'm still waiting for anyone who would like to back up any claims with real schematics. I've asked but I have yet to hear a peep from anyone.

So beware.
Dast, you have to be careful in these forums. Several posters here (including some mods and one well known and liked poster) insist that WIFI is on the Q9h and say they have schematics to prove it. I countered their claim with correspondence from Motorola to the FCC and with correspondence from Motorola to myself, and they just say that Motorola is lying, oh wait, "misleading" everyone. You'll get their wrath if you disagree with them.
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Dast, you have to be careful in these forums. Several posters here (including some mods and one well known and liked poster) insist that WIFI is on the Q9h and say they have schematics to prove it. I countered their claim with correspondence from Motorola to the FCC and with correspondence from Motorola to myself, and they just say that Motorola is lying, oh wait, "misleading" everyone. You'll get their wrath if you disagree with them.
im not sure which you are talking about but i and almost positive rb have never insisted anything...perhaps it was a different forum
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im not sure which you are talking about but i and almost positive rb have never insisted anything...perhaps it was a different forum
You're probably right. Too many forums, too many posts on the subject. The other part of my post is correct though.

I'm hoping that someone with a WIFI enabled Q9h can post the FCC ID number. I think that will go a long way in clearing this up.
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You're probably right. Too many forums, too many posts on the subject. The other part of my post is correct though.

I'm hoping that someone with a WIFI enabled Q9h can post the FCC ID number. I think that will go a long way in clearing this up.
yup i agree....
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Dast, you have to be careful in these forums. Several posters here (including some mods and one well known and liked poster) insist that WIFI is on the Q9h and say they have schematics to prove it. I countered their claim with correspondence from Motorola to the FCC and with correspondence from Motorola to myself, and they just say that Motorola is lying, oh wait, "misleading" everyone. You'll get their wrath if you disagree with them.

Dude, let it go bro.. at the end of the day, when that web browser is closed, do you honestly still think about it? I dont.

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i couldnt find it on motorolas site either. guess it doesnt have it after all. how in the hell would you have a phone and never use it to check out the features? dumb.....
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