Bluetooth GPS Pairing with Q9m WM6 Smartphone... - Page 2 - Motorola Q Forum

derrickwhitt · 04-10-2008, 02:58 PM

I'm in the same boat. I have a Holux M1000 and the Garmin software on my Q9m. It will detect the GPS but will not display any satallites. I know the GPS works because I hooked it up to my PC and it worked almost immediately. I tried Windows Live on my Q9m and it would not get a GPS signal. Everything is setup correctly on the phone.

zenkinz · 04-22-2008, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by derrickwhitt

I'm in the same boat. I have a Holux M1000 and the Garmin software on my Q9m. It will detect the GPS but will not display any satallites. I know the GPS works because I hooked it up to my PC and it worked almost immediately. I tried Windows Live on my Q9m and it would not get a GPS signal. Everything is setup correctly on the phone.

there's a high chance that your Q9m is not receiving any satellite data from your receiver even thoguh it appears to have connected to the receiver. Did you set your USB connection as Activesync Serial by any chance?

diver864 · 04-22-2008, 03:11 PM

Hi - here's an update:

I never was able to get my Q9m and BTGPS working with Google Maps or Live. The Motorola rom update did not help. I even took the Q9m back in to Verizon and swapped it out (for other reasons.) The new one behaved exactly like the old one. Tried various other bluetooth GPS utilities as well. In every case, the bluetooth device could be seen, but no satellite information was being received. Neither GPSCOM.exe nor the manual registry hack, GPS intermediate driver, made a difference.

Somewhere on the web I read that someone had had luck with the Garmin Mobile XT program. Apparently that program is able to see the 'bluetooth GPS port' (as opposed to the serial port?). Anyway, I installed that and ...

.... IT WORKS.

Still, neither Google Maps nor Live Search work.

Anybody know anything about this bluetooth GPS port? Can you post a pointer to the forum, please?

zenkinz · 04-22-2008, 08:02 PM

can you try to open com port 1 ?

diver864 · 04-23-2008, 09:33 AM

With the Q9m, there is no apparent way to set/select which COM port the GPS uses. Apparently, it uses COM1.

I have tried to access the GPS on COM1: (and every other com port) many times, through Google Maps, Live Search, GPSUtils, and one or two other tools, including the one suggested by the manufacturer of the BT GPS. None of them could do more than acknowledge that a GPS unit was connected. The applications either said (after an apparent timeout period) "Can't find the GPS on COM1:" or "Waiting on satellite signals". Other people have reported the same thing.

But under Bluetooth Manager / Settings / Serial Ports, the panel reports "Inbound COM port", "Outbound COM port", and "Default Device for Outbound Connections". Inbound is "BTC5":. Outbound is "COM1:" Default device for outbound connections was originally the bluetooth connection to my car (telephone circuit.) I could never change that. I originally thought that was the problem, and went so far as to hard-reset the phone and pair it to the BT GPS first. It still did not say the GPS was default. Then when I re-paired the phone with the car, it said the car was default.

I hard reset again, and have not re-paired my Q9m to the car, because I'm afraid it'll take precedence over the GPS.

I have also tried using GPSCOM.exe which is supposed to correct some problem with the GPS Intermediate Driver (whatever that is.) Didn't help. Have also tried manually creating the registry keys which are supposed to link the GPS intermediate driver to COM1: That only broke the Garmin software's ability to see the GPS via the bluetooth connection. So I undid all that.

I have spent hours and hours (and hours) on this, primarily out of blind, dumb persistence, and because it interests me a bit. I have a Treo 680 with TomTom 6 on it that works with the GPS unit, so I tend to use that as my navigation system, and it works very well, of course. The bottom line is, anyone who seriously wants a smartphone that serves as a navigation tool should AVOID the Q9m! Either get Palm Treo unit if you're on Verizon, or get a Samsung BlakJack II if you're on a GSM-based carrier like AT&T. The Garmin XT software works on the Q9m, but it's nowhere near as simple to use (have to select and download maps to the phone, for example, which takes ages) and it costs nearly as much as a standalone TomTom or Magellan unit.

SuperJETT · 04-23-2008, 09:40 AM

Sounds like the same deal I had, a master reset did fix it for me even with the same settings.

What convinced me to master reset was testing with a second Q9m I have in my office (waiting to give to the salesperson I ordered it for) and it worked out of the box as it should.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diver864

With the Q9m, there is no apparent way to set/select which COM port the GPS uses. Apparently, it uses COM1.

I have tried to access the GPS on COM1: (and every other com port) many times, through Google Maps, Live Search, GPSUtils, and one or two other tools, including the one suggested by the manufacturer of the BT GPS. None of them could do more than acknowledge that a GPS unit was connected. The applications either said (after an apparent timeout period) "Can't find the GPS on COM1:" or "Waiting on satellite signals". Other people have reported the same thing.

But under Bluetooth Manager / Settings / Serial Ports, the panel reports "Inbound COM port", "Outbound COM port", and "Default Device for Outbound Connections". Inbound is "BTC5":. Outbound is "COM1:" Default device for outbound connections was originally the bluetooth connection to my car (telephone circuit.) I could never change that. I originally thought that was the problem, and went so far as to hard-reset the phone and pair it to the BT GPS first. It still did not say the GPS was default. Then when I re-paired the phone with the car, it said the car was default.

I hard reset again, and have not re-paired my Q9m to the car, because I'm afraid it'll take precedence over the GPS.

I have also tried using GPSCOM.exe which is supposed to correct some problem with the GPS Intermediate Driver (whatever that is.) Didn't help. Have also tried manually creating the registry keys which are supposed to link the GPS intermediate driver to COM1: That only broke the Garmin software's ability to see the GPS via the bluetooth connection. So I undid all that.

I have spent hours and hours (and hours) on this, primarily out of blind, dumb persistence, and because it interests me a bit. I have a Treo 680 with TomTom 6 on it that works with the GPS unit, so I tend to use that as my navigation system, and it works very well, of course. The bottom line is, anyone who seriously wants a smartphone that serves as a navigation tool should AVOID the Q9m! Either get Palm Treo unit if you're on Verizon, or get a Samsung BlakJack II if you're on a GSM-based carrier like AT&T. The Garmin XT software works on the Q9m, but it's nowhere near as simple to use (have to select and download maps to the phone, for example, which takes ages) and it costs nearly as much as a standalone TomTom or Magellan unit.

diver864 · 04-26-2008, 10:10 AM

that's what's so frustrating about this thing. totally inconsistent. I've tried hard reset (master reset) on two units and it wouldn't work in either case.

pm1066 · 05-17-2008, 06:17 PM

I was able to get an iTrek M7 up and running on Google maps v2.1 (whatever is current) once I manually set the com to 1 in google maps.

xontros · 05-25-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by diver864

I have spent hours and hours (and hours) on this, primarily out of blind, dumb persistence, ...

I had the same problem with my Q9h and my Fortuna Slim BT GPS, the phone could see that there was a bluetooth GPS available but the software was ignoring it. Being also dumb and stuborn, I spent 3 days reading and trying everything that Google came up with, but now I finally enjoy the Garmin Mobile XT and Google Maps Mobile on my phone. To my understanding, these are the things that you have to do to make it work:
- Set the USB parameter in Settings/Connections to Activesync RNDIS. If you set it to Activesync Serial, you lose COM1 and maybe that's the reason some people (not all) are facing problems with BT GPS ... Remember that you will NOT be able to Activesync until you set it back to Serial.
- Pair the BT GPS device as described elsewhere in the forum
- Download, install and run the GPSCOM program, set it up for COM1 and save it
- Reboot every time you change something...
I still have the green "?" sign, but now I know that it's the BT icon surrounded by a sat orbit and not a questionmark

Thanks to everyone here for the bits of information that enabled me to find the solution!!!
Mike - Athens, Greece

tawndelli · 05-26-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xontros

To my understanding, these are the things that you have to do to make it work:
- Set the USB parameter in Settings/Connections to Activesync RNDIS. If you set it to Activesync Serial, you lose COM1 and maybe that's the reason some people (not all) are facing problems with BT GPS ... Remember that you will NOT be able to Activesync until you set it back to Serial.

This is EXACTLY right. After pulling my hair out for 5 days straight, I came across this post. This is the only post I've found on the web that answers this question! For the original Q, the answer is as simple as checking the checkbox for advanced network functionality in settings>connections>USBtoPC. If you haven't had this box checked, the phone will never prompt you about a device wanting to connect, which is what you need. Apparently in my case, I was trying so many things that I ended up changing this setting and didn't even know it was relevant to GPS! Thanks!!!